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Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:41 pm
by Scream
Memphis and Temple have to worry about football first.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:42 pm
by brot4britu
Terrific news Congratulations to those who brought this about WE earned this The dark days are done Maybe Moser erred

GO RAmBLERS !!!!

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:42 pm
by RAMBLOR
jmiller2794 wrote:
JCT wrote:
440Rambler wrote:Im not sure what other jump people would have had in mind. The Big East isnt ever going to be an option for us while DePaul is there. The American is collapsing as we speak. Getting in a basketball first conference with a strong Catholic presence and good media reputation is absolutely a home run.
Yes. That is mostly true. But the closest road game is going to be 283 miles away. If Dayton and/or Saint Louis leave the A10 (as their fans and common sense have suggested ever since Xavier and Butler left), the closest road game would be Duquesne.... 460 miles away.
I'm not bothered. Are Creighton fans upset about travel in the big east? Besides, there's a pretty high chance life takes me to a metropolis on the east coast for an extended period of time. There's zero chance it takes me to evansville Indiana. I'd love to catch a blers game once or more a year if I end up having to move.
Yeah, going to Brooklyn for the A10 tourney sounds great -- can party my ass off way more in NYC than St. Lousy.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:44 pm
by natetheskate
any one monitoring the MVC chat rooms? can only imagine

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:48 pm
by 440Rambler
The Bradley board is delusional & catatonic and its hilarious. Drake is more level-headed and understanding. The general MVC board has a mix.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:52 pm
by goramblers2011
Biggest fear I have is Dayton and/or SLU jump to the Big East in the next couple years. Then the conference becomes really east coast dominated and not nearly as strong in basketball, generally. There have been reports that the Big East is looking to expand and I think one (or both) of those schools have to beat on the short list.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:57 pm
by 01grad
440Rambler wrote:The Bradley board is delusional & catatonic and its hilarious. Drake is more level-headed and understanding. The general MVC board has a mix.
Bradley folks didn’t want us in the conference 9 years ago. They believed we weren’t good enough for them. They should be thrilled we’ll no longer be a burden.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:20 pm
by WestCoastFan
RAMBLOR wrote:WSU, Memphis and Temple would make the conference really really great.
As previously pointed out, Memphis and Temple aren't leaving due to football.

I don't think Wichita State will leave because of the money involved.

The AAC exit fee is $10 million plus a 27 month notice. Connecticut negotiated a shorter notice in exchange for a $17 million exit fee. Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston will all pay $10+ million each to leave. This money typically gets redistributed to the schools that remain in the conference. Plus when you leave, you forfeit your NCAA tournament distributions.

That means that WSU can either pay $10 million to leave or they can stay in the American and collect their share of other teams' exit fees plus the additional NCAA tournament shares. Because many of these fees aren't disclosed publicly and it's hard to pin down the value of an NCAA tournament share we won't know the true cost to leave. However, my guess based on just rough numbers is that it would cost WSU at least $20 million in an exit fee plus forfeited distributions to leave the AAC for the A10. At that cost, I don't see it happening.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:28 pm
by RAMBLOR
WestCoastFan wrote:
RAMBLOR wrote:WSU, Memphis and Temple would make the conference really really great.
As previously pointed out, Memphis and Temple aren't leaving due to football.

I don't think Wichita State will leave because of the money involved.

The AAC exit fee is $10 million plus a 27 month notice. Connecticut negotiated a shorter notice in exchange for a $17 million exit fee. Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston will all pay $10+ million each to leave. This money typically gets redistributed to the schools that remain in the conference. Plus when you leave, you forfeit your NCAA tournament distributions.

That means that WSU can either pay $10 million to leave or they can stay in the American and collect their share of other teams' exit fees plus the additional NCAA tournament shares. Because many of these fees aren't disclosed publicly and it's hard to pin down the value of an NCAA tournament share we won't know the true cost to leave. However, my guess based on just rough numbers is that it would cost WSU at least $20 million in an exit fee plus forfeited distributions to leave the AAC for the A10. At that cost, I don't see it happening.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 8970451975 Per Rothstein, A10 is trying to convince Temple to join and "find a separate home for their football program."

Memphis probably (rightly) thinks it will join the Big 12 or equivalent at some point, so probably a longshot there.

Re: Loyola joining A-10

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:27 pm
by Rambling0101
Watson gets his dream, back in the A10, now the A18? Not a fan of the move - forgetting the other sports - in hoops you’ll have recruits excited to play Dayton. Maybe SLU and that’s about it. I think in 3 years time you will see a drop off in the amount of in state recruits that has been the cornerstone of the rebuild.

My opinion is this has disaster written all over it starting around 2025.